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UPDATE: Prince George's County Council Gives Slots Vote the Slip -- For Now

“Slots are like crack,” a community activist told the council. More than 80 residents packed the hearing room.

 

With dozens of residents arguing the religious and economic ramifications of slot machines, the Prince George's County Council has put off for another day a decision on whether to ban slots in the county.

The council voted 5-4 against CB-49, a bill introduced earlier in the fall by Eric Olson (D-Dist.3) of College Park, effectively tabling further discussion on slots legislation until 2012.

Council members cited the need for more discussion on what slots could bring to the county in terms of revenue and economic development.

“There’s too much conflicting information,” said council member Mel Franklin (D-Dist.9) of Upper Marlboro. “Our ability to raise revenues is constrained. I don’t believe there is a perfect answer. I believe this bill is premature.”

Penn National Gaming, owner of Rosecroft Raceway in Fort Washington, has made a push to legalize slots at the track after acquiring it earlier this summer. A study commissioned by Penn National said that $346 million in revenues would be generated within the first year by slots in the county.

Placing slots at Rosecroft would have to get the backing of the Maryland General Assembly and likely a voter referedum.

Some 80 residents lined up to speak at the public hearing preceding the vote.

“Slots are like crack,” said community activist Arthur Turner. “I ask that you stand strong. We don’t need to think the only alternative is slots.”

But Eddie Martin, vice mayor of District Heights, said revenues generated by slots could be used to help struggling municipalities.

“We’re broke,” he said. “We can’t find money for anything. What are we suppose to do? We have to survive.”

Some residents said they were split on the whether the county should allow slots and urged the council to allow citizens to decide in a referendum.

“We are not in a position to make a definite decision for or against [the bill],” said Gerald Lucas, president of the Tantallon North Area Civic Association in Fort Washington. He said his membership could not reach  consensus on the bill.

Council members said they were wary of some of the social ills that slots could bring to the county.

"I believe Prince George's County is better than this. ...We don't need to do it," said Councilwoman Andrea Harrison (D-Dist. 5). "You all are going to do what you want to. But I am going to do what I have to do and support the people of Prince George's County."

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The Prince George's County Council today tabled a controversial bill that would ban slot machines throughout the county.

Council members voted 5-4 against the bill, CB-49, in a motion to table the legislation raised by council member Obie Patterson (D-Dist. 8) of Fort Washington.

The vote temporarily silenced a two-month debate on whether or not Prince George's County should block any voter referendum aimed at bringing slots to the county.

Penn National Gaming, owner of Rosecroft Raceway in Fort Washington, has made a push to legalize slots at the track after acquiring it earlier this summer. The track declared bankruptcy and closed last year.

Check back for our full story.

Related Topics: Gaming. gambling, Penn National, Prince George's County Council, Rosecroft Raceway, Slots, Slots bill, and gambling debate

Morgann

4:23 pm on Tuesday, November 15, 2011

Once again PG County makes a bad business decision. There is nothing to do in the county, no good stores, no good shopping, no slots. So, money will continue to leave the county until someone gets it....

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Norman56

4:33 pm on Tuesday, November 15, 2011

What we need is Port America to get casinos, and for there to be river boats (paddle wheel type), Going up to DC, and down to Colonial Beach, bringing gamblers into it.

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Dana Schwartz

7:58 pm on Tuesday, November 15, 2011

More info please: why was it tabled, instead of defeated outright?

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mjs47

9:01 am on Thursday, November 17, 2011

Dana,
Seriously? If you live in maryland(not ever to be confused with Merry-land) you already are aware of in-state gambling operations. Lottery and Keno is around every corner in this state and nowhere is it exempt in this state.My vote is for the PEOPLE to decide.

AndThenAgain

9:24 pm on Tuesday, November 15, 2011

Tabling leaves a veneer of hope for slots foes, instead of festering resentment over the winter break on the heals of an outright rejection of the ban.

Slots supporters can always fall back on the referendum approach, deflecting the rage of the activist class which, once again, has lost.

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tanisha

8:46 am on Wednesday, November 16, 2011

do they really think people from Howard County and Montgomery County will go to Rosecroft? Have you seen the cities that have gambling? They are all dumps.

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JustABill

2:32 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011

Tanisha, you are making a very misinformed generalization about the cities that have gambling but your assumption about people from Howard & Montgomery Counties not making the effort to go to Rosecroft may be partially correct. Rosecroft is not very far from Fed Ex Field and RFK Stadium and people from both Howard & Montgomery County go to Redskins games, DC United games, and all sorts of concerts and other events at those venues and they are not in the nicest parts of town either. The incentive of gambling will certainly bring more people from all around the region to Rosecroft but without full casino gaming more people will travel even further to Charlestown and Atlantic City. Even with just slots you will see more people from the region, even PG County going to Arundel Mills to play slots because there is more to do there than just play slots. If they do put slots at Rosecroft it will create the need to redevelop more than just the racetrack facilities to bring people there to gamble and knowing what a dump as you say the Rosecroft area has been for several decades, that can only be a positive thing. However, I firmly believe that there is a better chance of horses flying than a slots casino being approved for Rosecroft when it is common knowledge that the developers of National Harbor have bought and paid for the votes from state and local Democratic leaders to eventually get slots and ultimately full casino gambling into their facilities.

Dana Schwartz

4:36 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011

Much clearer coverage in this morning's Washington Post. Apparently gambling proponents wanted the bill tabled so that the state legislature could request a state-wide referendum on whether there should be gambling in Prince George's county. Of course people not living in the county won't care about bringing gambling here, and thus they assume it will be approved. And so Prince George's County residents will lose control over allowing organized gambling in our own jurisdiction.

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Dana Schwartz

4:48 pm on Thursday, November 17, 2011

The Washington Post's Editorial Board agreed today:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/prince-georges-cowardly-punt-to-annapolis-on-slots/2011/11/16/gIQABOoVSN_story.html

I did not vote for Mike Miller, and never would. Why is he have such control over the entire state? According to the Post, he can use political blackmail to get anything he wants. Apparently, including slots in our county.

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mjs47

12:49 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

lose control over organized gambling? hmmmmmm? what would you call the lottery?
How about keno? scratch offs? bingo night at the local church? They're in your
precious district already.

Locs1957

5:14 pm on Wednesday, November 16, 2011

Why is there never a definitive Yes or No in Prince George's County? I guess we will have to send our valuable time saying, No means No, not maybe so.... This is where the definitive vote would have helped!

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MAH 1464

6:43 am on Thursday, November 17, 2011

Build a new full Casino at Washington Harbor, In the same complex as The Gaylord National, it is at least well lit and has a chance at security, the problem I see with rosecroft besides the fact the neighborhood is a hole is if they get them at rosecroft, then then are naturally going to push for Laurel race track. It was not approved for PG county the first time around so put it to a full State wide vote, If you do not want the income, as we know their are going to be others that will gladly take the money and we can resort to the good old fashion Democratic way of just taxing the residents again and again and again.

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mjs47

1:01 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

Laurel already should have had the slots. They spent several years aquiring the necessary permits only to have their backers(magna corp)bail in the eleventh hour. Lets decide not to put gambling machines where gamblers already go. Brilliant!! Lets
forget 30,000 people the racing industry employs. Brilliant!! Lets put in next to
a shopping mall!! even more Brilliant!! It's not the gamblers or the gambling that's remotely worrisome,but our fine politicians.

Lynn

7:17 am on Thursday, November 17, 2011

Prince George's county residents and ONLY Prince George's County residents should vote by referendum on this issue. However, as usual the county council is in on the fix with the plantation owners down in Annapolis. That's where Rushern Baker used to hide out.

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Lynn

7:32 am on Thursday, November 17, 2011

Remember how that State Lottery thing worked out? It was "For the Schools", yeah right. Everything goes into the general fund and now we have two stadiums AND a highly paid Stadium authority staff and the corruption continues.

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MAH 1464

8:07 am on Thursday, November 17, 2011

You are right on the money there, and they never seem to be able to come up with how much money they take in for the lottery, or when is the money supposed to stop going to the stadiums and start going to schools, they are all criminals. If it is a elected offical in this state it is corrupt and only cares for itself, and that is for both parties. Career politicians must be stopped. Such as Steny Hoyer, I think he has close to more than 30 years robbing the State and Country now.

Joan Pitkin

9:40 am on Thursday, November 17, 2011

State Officials recently testified that the Lottery take represented 1/3 of the state's revenues.

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Joan Pitkin

9:49 am on Thursday, November 17, 2011

Disregard previous message- Corrected version, ... officials said the Lottery was the third leading contributor to the State's revenues !

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Lynn

10:14 am on Thursday, November 17, 2011

Thanks Joan....The third leading contributor to the state's revenue! Is that good or bad? and why are we still dealing with overcrowded and crumbling school buildings?

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Joan Pitkin

8:37 pm on Thursday, November 17, 2011

It all goes into the General Fund and has to "fight" with every other state fiscal priority.
Because it is such a substantial part of the budget - don't look to the Governor or the Legislature to ever wean themselves off the Lottery.

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Tony Begenwald

10:01 am on Friday, November 18, 2011

Once again the emphasis in reporting the actions of the Council on CB 49 was the focus on slots at Rosecroft. Don't people realize a ban on slots in Prince Georges county means the entire county, not just Rosecroft. What was not reported on was the testimony on the inpact of the bian on all the Veterans Service Organizations throughout the county that need these slots to support their facilities and their out reach efforts to help the Veterans in the county. There are over 77,000 Veterans in Prince Georges county, more than any other county in the State. If there is any question about what good and how much revenue can be raised, just take a look at what the American Legion Post in Cambridge, MD has been able to do with only five slots.

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michael mcardle

5:54 pm on Saturday, November 19, 2011

Mr. Begenwald's defense of slots is yet another clear example of the "don't touch the way my benefits are provided at all cost" mentality that is crippling the ability of public officials in this nation to work together on serious solutions to our national and state budget crises. The cause of veteran benefits is a moral and a just one; to reduce it to fear mongering, to a political sound bite - that any change to the present funding formula will be the cause of great harm to mission service delivery - is not helpful.

We need to face the fact that our government simply cannot afford to do business as it has for the past fifty years without risking we become Greece, where out of control entitlement funding has virtually destroyed one of the world's longest standing societies. I understand Mr. Begenwald's passionate concern for veterans, and I share it. I hope he is equally passionate about avoiding expanding the opening that slots in any form accords casino, riverboat, and other types of legalized gambling not yet here in Maryland. In this I differ with my previous boss, past Governor Ehrlich, who appointed me Assistant Secretary and Senior Adviser to the Secretary of Higher Education during his term despite my disclosure to him personally of that divergent opinion.

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JustABill

5:50 am on Sunday, November 20, 2011

Mr. McArdle, If that really is you then I have to ask how can the "Assistant Secretary and Senior Adviser to the Secretary of Higher Education" have such an uneducated and misinformed understanding of a subject you are so firmly against? The Slots in American Legion and VFW facilities are not government funded, owned, or operated, and they would not be a source of revenue for government programs. They would, in fact, simply help to fund the veterans associations own independent programs, thus improving services to veterans without tax payers dollars.

As for Governor Ehrlich's slots bills, had they been passed in the first year he sent them to the General Assembly as a vast majority of Maryland citizens clearly wanted then Maryland's coffers would have at least 7 years of slots revenues and subsequently related business tax revenues to not only balance the ridiculously over spending democrats annual budgets but likely lave the state with a surplus each year. We also would likely be talking about the resurgence of the racing industry here in Maryland and the increased revenues from not only keeping Rosecroft open, but Bowie would likely have remained open and thriving as a training and stabling facility providing hundreds of jobs as just a small part of a multi billion dollar equine industry that is a Maryland staple for two centuries. It is a shame that people like you cannot get past their sanctimonious, not in my back yard ways to see the benefits of the big picture.

michael mcardle

1:01 pm on Sunday, November 20, 2011

I stand on my position that expanding the opening for casino and riverboat gambling coming to our community is not in the interest of the quality of life of the great majority of Bowie residents. Slots, even structured as they are today - as you correctly noted, sir - are assuredly the camel's nose under the tent. They will lead to the establishment of casino, riverboat, and other gambling infrastructure. As a whole, our community does not desire the deterioration, decay and destruction that can accompany this influx.

My position as articulated to Governor Ehrlich was prospective, not based on currently prevailing law - and thus cannot be reasonably deemed "uneducated and misinformed." The direction of the Governor's policy on this issue was clear; my point of view, and operative approach where the possibility of "funding higher education" via slots or other gambling was concerned, was fully disclosed, and was respected, by the way, by the Governor - to his great credit.

In the end, most people recognize allocating slots and gambling revenue to not for profit organizations is a payoff, purely and simply. I suggest veteran's organizations would do well to step up here and examine the means by which they can evolve out of a dependency upon this particular revenue stream - for their own good, as well as for the community's.

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JustABill

2:08 pm on Sunday, November 20, 2011

Mr. McArdle, you are completely proving my assertion that you are apparently "uneducated and misinformed" on this issue. I would also call to question your reading comprehension because you clearly did not gather any information from my post. The slots that would be in a veterans facility would not have any connection to the government beyond a vote allowing a VFW or American Legion to independently own and operate 5 slot machines in their bars which are only patronized by their members and guests. There is no "payoff" as you are trying to imply.

As for your claim that deterioration, decay, and destruction can accompany legalized gambling, I will simply ask you when was the last time you visited Charles Town, WV or Dover, DE recently? Both cities have enjoyed a healthy revitalization since slots and now full casino gambling were legalized and people from Maryland are flocking to both locations for the influx of JOBS that have accompanied the influx of residual businesses into those areas. If given the choice, I am sure the community you speak of would vote for increased revenues and JOBS over the possibility of higher taxes, and one business after another closing down and thus even fewer jobs being available in an already struggling economy.

In the end your reasons for not wanting slots are respectable but they are very short sighted and not the views of the majority as we well know.

michael mcardle

2:46 pm on Sunday, November 20, 2011

Once again, JustaBill, you are proving just who it is who is NOT on top of the facts.

The payoff I referred to is elected officials permitting legalized gambling, sir. Your continued attempt to claim I do not understand the nature of this vote, and the current structural conduct of slots, is simply incorrect.

We can agree to disagree without being disagreeable, so I would encourage you to stick to the facts to support your argument.

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JustABill

5:13 pm on Sunday, November 20, 2011

I assume you really just don't like to read or you simply choose to ignore the truth. Even a political novice would know enough to understand that the democrats in PG county have no need to "pay off" veterans considering they rarely get strong support from Veterans in elections. If anyone is being paid off by votes for or against a particular slots bill in PG County it would be the developers of National Harbor who were instrumental in getting the PG County delegation to vote against Gov. Ehrlich's slots bills because they would not have brought slots to their facilities.

You claim that I am not using facts to support my argument but you continue to ignore them in your responses. I will agree to disagree with you but only because you are blatantly avoiding the issues I have addressed in rebuttal to your remarks and it is pointless to try to discuss this with a brick wall.

Slots and casinos have done nothing but improve the numerous towns and cities that have them in our neighboring states as a direct result of the flood of revenues and residual jobs that have come with the casinos and related businesses. Charles Town, WV is a glowing example of the benefits of Casinos and Atlantic City which is often used as an example of how casinos can hurt a city has been revitalized in recent years with the help of Cordish and other companies that have redeveloped block after block and brought tens of thousands of new jobs into the city and it has been getting better every year.

michael mcardle

11:20 pm on Sunday, November 20, 2011

Your fanaticism, sir, renders your argument hollow I am afraid. I think everyone now gets the point !

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JustABill

4:17 am on Tuesday, November 22, 2011

Sir, if anyone has a hollow argument it is proven by your failure to acknowledge or respond to even one of the examples I gave to dispute your assertion that an influx of casino gambling would bring "deterioration, decay, and destruction." If the bill in question would have also allowed for faith based organizations to use forms of gambling for fundraising to support their charitable programs or to build or make renovations to their facilities I assume you would be against that as well but I would make a wager that a majority of the people that hold the same point of view as you would seriously consider changing their position. Lets not forget that only 15 years ago casino nights were held regularly throughout Prince Georges County and helped to raise much needed money for volunteer fire departments and other nonprofit organizations. If your claim were accurate, with all that gambling happening in the county back then one would think there would have been all this deterioration, decay, and destruction but instead the result was a bunch of bright shiny new fire trucks, rescue squads, and even new or renovated fire houses. Yes, there were incidents of corruption and misdirection of funds by some individuals within the bureaucracy running some of those casino nights but over all it was a very beneficial situation for the people of PG County.

What you call fanaticism I call a strong argument supported with a wealth of facts and examples. Yes, I am a fan of gambling over taxes.

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