A. Obama has deported more illegals than any president, ever.
B. Currently, more illegals are leaving on their own than are entering the country (first time since the 60s, I believe).
C. Work visas, by definition, don't have anything to do with illegal immigration.
D. No, vets and illegal immigrants aren't applying for the same jobs. Show me one employer who would rather deal with hiring someone of questionable residency credentials v. a vet. It doesn't add up. If Americans wanted to pick fruit then temp, seasonal work visas wouldn't need to be issued. That's been proven over and over. Anyone who wants to work one of those jobs can do so at any point. It is not even a tiny bit hard to secure a job cleaning up hotels (which I've done) or working as a farm hand (which i have not). We need high quality jobs and placement services for our vets. Trying to create some false battle between illegals and vets is nonsensical on every single level.

People always like to blame someone else for their troubles, but often it's a no-fault matter - just the system doing its thing.

Obviously You don't get what's been going on, mostly because You supported it all during the previous admin and the tepub rubber stamping congresses, easy to see from that parroted reply you gave!! You can continue to run from but as they say, 'you can't hide!'!!

The illegal aliens and those that profit from them are now into spin mode. They would have you believe that there is no problem. Nonsense. Governors from the border states all say the inflow continues each and every day. They are not all here to pick fruit. From coast to coast they are in all fields of employment. Some come on visas and never return. Obama Admin does the minimum to focus on the dangerous ones, but the process is a joke. No leadership to resolve the problem.
Work visa system does allow legal means to enter, but why allow over 1 million people into the country when unemployment is over 8 % and vetrans are in need of jobs. To ignore the problem or to pretend it does not exist is just wrong.

By the way, there was a big change in so called leadership, hiring even more extremist mentality then before in the tepub party, thanks to dems sitting home or joining in, in the midterms, All Running On Jobs and Under Their 'job creators, of which none have been under ronnynomic free market supply side capitalism since implemented, So As To Your Change, 'Where's The Jobs?' and policies for, nothing but even more obstruction and tearing down what once had us as the envy of the world, not only in the Fed but in many states as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You know whats really going to shock them is when they realize that the freedoms they were sent to the middle east to protect was taken away from them by their own representatives!.

Do a little dresearch and you might be surprised that most of these work visas are requested by US corporations who claim they cannot find competent talent among US citizens. yeah the same companies who say they need a bigger tax break to compete while they ship our jobs overseas and park their money in foreign banks to evade taxes. such PATRIOTS...turn off the Rush radio crap and wake up.....or is your lotion mainly based on the fact our Prersident is aback person?

@in the loop...maybe you need to do some research. Obama has had known socialists movement members of Casa of MD and LaRaz visit the white house, which was probably set up by that scumbag Tom Perez f(rom MoCo who is now in the DOJ who has been supporting illegals) and Obama assured them he will take care of them. With that being said, US corporations ARE taxed the highest in the industrial countries, which is why more are moving overseas. The conservatives have been trying to reduce the tax rates but the dems keep puhing back. You have NO idea how business is run, so quit pointing the finger at corporations. Also, you listen to PBS too much because we can tell by your foolish remarks. i am sure you voted for Obama because he is 1/2 black...so that makes you a racist. Next time vote for the person who will get the job done.

B Allen, you are off base. US tax rates are high, but the rate actually paid by corporations is not. You bring up people invited to the White House, that is a red herring. Bush invited neo-cons all day long. Your point? Our international corporations are reprehensible citizens ("corporations are people too my friend"). They hide their profits overseas to avoid paying taxes for the very services provided by the the rest of us. They want the security provided by us, but don't wish to pay for it, all in the name of the "Almighty Dollar".

@Paulie...you make me laugh. If you really believe what you say, you are not only a FOOL, but you are foolish. Stop looking at what other people have and feeling sorry for yourself. If you want to to succeed in life, then quit pointing the finger at those who ARE successful and blaming them, get off your butt, quit asking for handouts and get a job with a bright future. Corporates stock goes up or down depending on profits. With the high taxes that the US has on businesses, the regualtions by the government with drive up costs to consumers, the high taxes in states like MD that run businesses out, should I go on or is thelight going on in your head and you get the picture? Corporations get tax breaks for the cost of doing business, that SHOULD BE A WRITE OFF. What you people get reported to you from the left wing media is the GROSS dollars a company makes, not the net. When you take out the salaries, rent on office buildings, down to every box of printer paper, all is the cost of doing business, then what you get is a NET profit, which the lefties don't tell you. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU PUT YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH AGAIN AND REMOVE ALL DOUBT THAT YOU ARE A FOOL. I looked at your profile, no wonder you say what you do. You are one of the ones who think that everyone needs to share their wealth or income with you. http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/22658.html

Pssst, a little secret for you B Allie, I have made it, I don't ask for handouts but you probably do demanding everything you can get out of government. I can stoop to your level or ignore your idiotic rants.

It appears that insults abound from your mouth. That said, you have no clue what you are talking about when it comes to corporate profits and tax rates. You are one of those that runs their mouth repeating Faux News talking points, take some Imodium and perhaps it will stop. I doubt it though. Your vast experience is apparently limited to typing on a keyboard.

Goodbye Loser.

@Paulie, evidently you have not. You are a "big man" behind the computer, but you ar ea loser in real life. If you understood how business is run, they you would not "insert foot". If you have a retirment account, you probably have corporate stock in it. If you want corporations to share their wealth, their porfits go down and your retirement accounts will go with it. Quit ranting like a spoiled little brat and get the facts. I don't listen to news, I follow the money and I know you people have your hands out all the time and want us to share our wealth...NOT INSULTS JUST THE THRUTH. TRUTH HURTS DOESN'T IT. You did not even look at the chart I posted...well, you probably would not even be able to understand it, but the facts are the facts. I will post it again for you to look at. BTW, I have more stashed away than you probably will make in 20 yrs and I am VERY proud of it because in America we can do what we want, make as much money as we want, be what we want and NOT have to share it with people like you who call themselves 'progressive"...it is more REgressive. Too bad you are such a loser...you started the rant, I finished it, with the facts. http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/22658.html

@Allie, I don't need to offer to compare bank accounts with you, or show you my resume' or prove your lack of obvious intelligence. My resume' is well known in Perry Hall as I do not hide behind a screen name like you do. Come out of the shadows B. Allen for all to see who you really are. It is okay out here in the light of day. But no, you will have some poor weak excuse for why you hide while you run your mouth.

@Paulie, bring it on... You people think you are above everyone else. You think you can impose your worthless way of life on others and think we need to conform to your backward way of life. You want to live in a socialist nation then go to one, Greece or Italy or Spain or even Venezuala. We don't need to share our wealth with people who have their hands out. What needs to be done is for vets, they need to be be given a priority with jobs, not how we were treated after Vietnam by you people. Also the way to do it is to make a change in the white house and senate, and things will becoame better for all. Too bad you can't take the truth or the facts. You people live in a fantasy world...you and jag

This is absolutely false, every single word of it.

Great article at Townhall explaining why liberal economics fails every time. Money quote:
"When Uday Hussein used to run Iraq's soccer team, players who performed poorly were slapped, spit on, and beaten with electric cables until the blood flowed. This is similar to how liberals treat American businesses. They demonize them, raise their taxes, bury them in new regulations, make it easier to sue them, and harass them with regulatory agencies at every turn. Then, they become puzzled as to why those same businesses aren't creating jobs or are looking to move more of their business overseas."
http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2012/05/08/7_reasons_liberal_economic_policies_dont_work

Or that fact that the military does not teach a person any skills to get by in real life. Let's face it the military outsources most the mechanic, computer jobs to private companies. The military just needs more cannon fodder. Let's also face it most military recruits are not scoring high on the IQ scale.

Bill, I agree. Heck if NObama was smart (but he is not), he would have signed the offical okie doke for the pipeline from Canada. How many jobs would that have created and how many vets could have gotten a good paying job from it...THOUSANDS...THANS HOW MANY. The media needs to start telling the truth as to who is at fault. It is NOT the republicans, they are trying to fix the problems the previos congress under pelosi had caused. If you follow the money and not try to "pontificate" on politics, you will see who REALLY was the cause of this and a lot of it goes back to Barny Frank and Chris Dodd and their mishandling of fannie and freddie and the MILLIONS that guys like Franklin Raines (Obamas buddy) took when leaving there as a bonus to join Obamas" campaign...follow the money, even the %535Millon that went to places like Solyndra, which taxpayers will NEVER see back...GET THE TRUTH!!!!!!!

I've found a grand total of 5 items in this article that I take issue with, purely on the way they are written. This was one of them.

I was under the belief that the "stigma" vets are under is that of shell shocked loose cannons. Like most things we hear often about the bad things Vets do, or see them on the side of the road with signs.

Its wrong, sure, but we also blame illegal immigrants for taking jobs away from Americans.

The stigma is that every veteran has seen something horrible and has some degree of PTSD or anger problems and will be difficult to work with.

I'd agree, i think it makes sense that if America were still in a boom cycle then we'd see a bigger illegal immigration issue. I was mostly taking issue with what I view as JH being intellectually dishonest in trying to somehow draw a picture where illegals are now overrunning the boarders and taking jobs from vets when the reality of the situation is the two are very separate issues and the problem of illegal immigration is as tame as it's been in a generation, in part because of the sluggish recovery and in part because the federal and state governments are doing more to accelerate deportations than under previous administrations. Ultimately, I'm entirely confident that vets aren't in direct or indirect competition with undocumented workers and the whole thing is just a ruse to toot his one, anti-immigrant horn (hence bringing up legal visas as well).

Vets and anyone else could wake up tomorrow and get a job working as a farm hand without issue. The problem is that the vast majority of Americans, vets and otherwise, aren't interested doing those jobs. The government issues work visas out of necessity, not because they enjoy giving handouts to unemployed vets.

@David
Baloney.........to left wing Democrats, everything was Bush's fault. In reality each President at some time in their reign takes ownership of the issues...........good and bad, there's not much good right now coming from Obama so the blame game continues. To attempt to deflect a problem is a tactic used far too often these days.
Yours is an attitude clearly manufactured from watching too much MSNBC.....

Obama's policies are directly responsible for the slow economic growth, which in turn is slows job creation. All the rage directed at former President Bush isn't going to change this fact. Veterans are struggling to find good jobs (as are millions of other Americans) as a direct result of Obama's policies. He is causing pain and suffering even as he claims to be helping those looking for work. It's a disaster, very sad.

@David...I went through the same thing after getting out in 1977 where Jimmy Carter screwed things up for ALL Americans not only vets getting out after the Vietnam era. Ronald Regan NEVER blamed Carter for ruining the economy with high unemployment, had to stand in gas lines on certain days to get gasoline, high interest rates (18% on home mortgages alone), businesses closing, etc. Same thing as now. I picked myself up, went back to college, did not get any handouts other than my GI benefits (for 3 yrs active and 3 yrs inactive...your welcome), got a degree in environmental resouce management and then they (you know the libs) would not even hire me in the federal, state or local governments with Aceing the tests for all of them, but then again they had ALL their "affirmative action" going on, they were only hiring certain types of people. So I went and got a job in another industry. BOTTOM LINE: Get "O" out of there and get someone who knows what they are doing, even if it is Hillary or some other dem knucklehead, anything would be better than what we have now.

@David, quit carrying the water jug and start thinking for yourself. You have NO clue whatsoever as to what you are talking about. Everything you put here, is what you hear from PBS, MSNBC and all the other scumbag so called media. Find out the facts. Her ein MD, we are worse off because of the policies of people like the knucklehead Omalley and all the other dems that run this republic...get the facts before you open your moth and remove all doubt of you being a fool and foolish. http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/22658.html

@Danna,
"Veterans said that because of some media coverage, average Americans tend to think many veterans suffer from PTSD and so employers are wary."

So media coverage is to blame? Being part of the media as you are, how would you correct that? Are there any specific articles from the media to use as an example? Lastly.....what is an "average American". Was this an opinion, a scientific poll, a study of some sort?

In your series would you care to encourage soldiers to deconstruct their experiences in a way that emphasizes the skills and understandings gained in the Services which make them more qualified than some other job applicants?

Merely having served does not impress employers any more than does the fact that Americans deserve jobs as much as people on the other side of the earth.

@Danna, that is because you people in the media don't tell the truth. My thoughts and prayes go out to my brothers in arms, but they need to pick themselves up and make it, just like we ALL had to after Vietnam.There is a whole generation who fought in a non-war during vietnam under worse circumstances and NO support at all (during and after) and had to put up with the likes of Hanoi Jane Fonda and Guys like John Kerry speaking out against the US military and supporting the communists, etc. This BAD economy, high unemployment, businesses either not hiring or going out of business, etc,etc, is the PREVIOUS DEM CONGRESS (under stretch Pelosi) and the dem run Senate who ran the US into the ground and Obama joining in on it, with ALL of his bad decisions. What has to be done is to get rid of "O" in Nov and get someone new int here that can make the right decisions. It is not political, the government needs to be run like a business. The dems don't know how to run a business, i.e. Solyndra...known fact it was going under so Obama gave them $535M taxpayers dollars...GONE. But his buddies will get their money back. BTW, I was NEVER thanked for my service to the country and I NEVER asked for it. I did my duty.

Some sources we talked to said they believed the current emphasis on jobs and vets was at least in part an effort to make up for the poor treatment of Vietnam veterans when they returned home. Many of those same veterans are looking for jobs right now as well.

@Danna...If you want to report on something, report the fact that Maryland isn NOT a place to prosper any longer. The democrat run political machine in MD has managed to put MD in the BOTTOM 10 STATE BUSINESS TAX CLIMATE. I had to get out of the high tech industry that OWEmally and others in the house and senate because they forced busineeses to either leave MD, go out of Businesses because of the TAXES and regulations imposed, or leave the area and move to more business friendly and "right to work" state. NOT poor business planning just BAD POLITICS on the democrats part. That is why they ALL need to be forced out. OWEmally with ALL his taxes he wants to impose on the General Session he is calling for on 5/14 will put MD at the BOTTOM of ALL states. Other areas are prospering, VA for one. Vets have the VA education benefits, which I took full advantage of after ETS'ing in 1977 and got a degree from the UofMD, while working part time. They can do the same if they want, they are entitled to it for serving, more so then the scumbags that are "occupying" and asking for handouts. If they want a job and not go to college, then go to where the jobs are, like in North Dakota, or other places than MD. BTW, have you ever looked at all the MD licences plates that go to VA every morning? That is a tell tale sign, right there.

Carolyn, great idea! We will do a story on that angle -- how people can help -- this week.

Wonderful idea Carolyn.......

Lisa, Brain, and Marc, great article. Sadly this country has been down this road before in the Vietnam War. We didn't learn our lesson then and when you don't, history tells us we will repeat the same mistakes.

@Christopher Will

WPA & CCC ???
It might be a good idea?

How about get out of the way of business by reducing the costs that businesses incur? Instead of short term make work statism, long term jobs created in the private sector.

That is why we have an unemployment office. I used the unemployment office to gain knowledge of the job market when I got out of the army. The people that work there are paid to help people find jobs. Problem is, In Maryland, more and more companies are downsizing, leaving and going to VA or NC (I have friends who have moved their high tech companies to those states) or just closing down. Just see what happens now with the income tax increases and the commercial real estate tax increases that the democrats just passed in the special assembly. Read this and you might learn why businesses are not coming to maryland nor are there any startups. Also, it looks like the biotech industry in MD is going to get the "shaft" also, because of their tax credits will be taken away by the dems. BTW, I have a a patent pending and when it is granted I will be starting a company, but NOT in MD. I will hire people from MD is they wanmt to drive to either VA or DE. http://www.bizjournals.com/baltimore/news/2012/05/14/maryland-business-groups-cautious-on.html?page=all

US Senate leadership has failed the nation. No budget passed in years. More leading from behind. Dems have doomed the middle class. Don't be duped again.

yep all those nasty democrats and obama's fault. Nothing to do with the worst recession in 80 years under the republicans watch might maybe having something to do with it. This is really getting to be old, its either all obama's fault or bush's fault. Has nothing to do with the extremists on both sides refusing to play well with others, nope not at all

The recession ended in June 2009 and what ensued was the effects of Obama's massive increase in regulation and wasting money. Both conspired to keep the economy from growing. Other factors contributed as well, including Obama's mismanagement of the after effects of the mortgage crisis.

Jason, good advice and thank you for your service. We did not have ANY support after vietnam from the community as you all are getting now. The ones in the dem party now are the ones that spit on soldires and called them babykillers, back in the day. If you have an idea for a business, go for it. That is what America is all about. If you are successful, GREAT. If it does not work out, well you gave it a try. That is what is wrong with these lefties, they are always complaining about people who succede, that why they are LOSERS and will NEVER taste success from building something from the ground up.

higher=hire

It might add "fodder" to the notion that the Government really can't "create" jobs afterall. Especially with such a devisive tone coming from the top.

For many different reasons the "stimulus" was kind of a failure and greed as you mention is one of those reasons. The best thing the Government can do is to get out of the way, only then will we see sustainable growth and some semblance of prosperity.

I think this will be the best way for our Veterans, our College youth, our young minority job seekers and just plain everyday people to find there "niche" in life and prosper.

A perfect statement of socialist paranoia: employers=greedy. Businesses seek to grow and will hire if they believe there are growth opportunities and/or if they experience growth. Businesses aren't hiring because of the uncertainty of future growth and costs associated with government policy. That's right, the Dems have created a business atmosphere in many places that discourages employment.

Wow, Bill.

"Businesses aren't hiring because of the uncertainty of future growth and costs associated with government policy. That's right, the Dems have created a business atmosphere in many places that discourages employment."

If you don't think the uncertainty you speak of is AT LEAST a 50/50 republican/democrat congressional issue, then you're delusional. I find it unbelievable that you could think it's entirely, much less substantially, a problem with democrats when the far right congressional delegation has made clear their desire to throw wrenches in everything they possibly can. They brought the government to the brink of default, caused the S&P to downgrade the US's credit rating for the first time in history, held the payroll tax holiday hostage, and you think democrats are causing uncertainty?! That's absolutely dumbfounding.

@jag - I'm not a Republican, and never have been, so I can't help you and your desire to blame. I was a socialist/marxist/Democrat for 12 years however.

@Theresa, you forgot to mention about the so called "stimulus package" that went out to NObamas' buddies in the unions, campaign contributors and general butt buddies. Take Solynda for instance, a known fact that they were going out of business and the GAO reported to the Bush admin so the Bush admin turned them down but OBAMA gave them $353Million taxpayers dollars and we will never get it back, but his buddies will get their money back. Just typical of the lies, deciet and fraud by the dems. Hell, it is all over the press when a republican has an affair of something and you people want their heads. Oh, I also forgot the $1M stimulas package money that went to a program for African men (in Africa) to teach them how to "clean" down there. Just when you thought you saw it all.

Thank you Sandy, this information will be very helpful to those that click onto www.military.com.
Baltimore Co. Hasp a very good program too. All on has to do is go to any County library for information or to the county council itself.

Judith:
Great post.....

Thank you for posting this, Judith. We're attending job fairs as they come up and talking to vets at the events.

Chris, great point. By some estimates, there are 3 million unfilled jobs in this country. And part of the reason they go unfilled is a mismatch between job location and location of skilled'qualified labor pool. We have to keep in mind that it not only takes the efforts of employers to seek out Vets for jobs, but also, Vets have an obligation to show the appropriate level of initiative to seek out jobs and make compromises regarding type of job, location, etc.

Chris, good post. I did the same after I got out of the army in 1977. Went back to school, found a good paying part time job through the unemplyment listings. All of this without the internet, cell phones, pagers, etc. Had to "beat the streets" to get the info. Also, sometimes you need to go where the jobs are, that is why I stayed in the DC area because I did not want to work at a factory back in PA after I got out. btw, we were NEVER thanked for our service during vietnam, but I thank you.

Our next installment in this series is a first-person account of a veteran who was successful in finding a good job.

and we were considered MORE mature at a younger age than our counterparts who complained about the system and lived off the government. Employers knew we could carry out orders and get things done. that is why it is better to hire a vet than it is to take some kid that thinks they are "entitled" to a job without having to work had and become successful

Well said Jim........

No wonder property taxes have skyrocketed in Bmore County.

Very good Buzz

Devil Doc - regrettably, you are 100% correct except I would state that cheap labor is their focus. Of course our "free trade" rules appear to help American consumers in the short term, but in the long term it costs us jobs. I propose like many others, no "free trade", just "fair trade". Whatever tariffs are placed on American goods by a foreign country, we will charge the same for goods coming to us from that country.

jag...if you believe that then you may want to buy a bridge I have for sale. Like I told you before, you are not only a fool but you are foolish. You have NO business sense noi do you have and sense at all. You spew out the crap that PBS and other worthless news outlets put out there. Just like the Obama administration counted on...people like you who don't have a clue to vote for them again. Have you had your kool-aide today? Sounds like you did because you cannot take the truth. These numbers are proff that you are an fool and you keep putting your foot in your mouth. We do NOT want to share our hard earned tax dollars to losers like you. You people are what you call yourselves "progressives" in taxes, that is raising taxes and spending. Americans want lower taxes and less spending. I have made it, evidently you NEVER will because of your stupid little pathetic life. I am not like you wanting government handouts like free medical,etc. I guess you are still waiting for Obama to pay for your gas and rent (because I doubt if you make enough to buy a home, pay your car payment (if you got one)...don't hole your breath. BTW, I do not respect peole like you or that other idiot Paulie. I don;t have respect for stupid people who feel that everyone should follow thier leftists ways. You people are "stuck on stupid", not seeing all the corruption going on in Maryland with the democrats http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/22658.html

? What on earth was that gibberish? Keep on blaming government for your crap life, guy. I'm sure you woulda been a rock star if only Bush coulda had a third term. Oh well, maybe next life.

Nice. Silence dissent so that our state and country can progress as government takes a greater share of our property. Maryland is "rich" because it is a federal dependency, living on borrowed money from China and others. It's a fools paradise that the progs. want you to believe is sustainable. But it's simply a pile of lies. And if you object to the progressive delusion, you are the nutty one. This is how it goes with the left.

You aren't married to JoAnn Nichols, by any chance, are you?

To rephrase Irvin's comment: "I still can't get over my anger at Bush, so I am going to vote for financial ruin."

Look at history. Reagan had one of the biggest job growth rates in the millions of jobs that neither Clinton nor Bush or Obama have come close to. And yes, look at the hostage crisis, inflation, interest rates, and gasoline shortages that led to Carter being acknowledged as one of the worst presidents in history. Reagan got reelected by an incredible landslide based on the country being better off after his first 4 years compared to that of Jimmy Carter. Almost all of job gains under Jimmy Obama have been temporary such as hiring, laying off, then rehiring census workers and students over the summer. Look at Solyndra, how many peole work there Paul? Or how about all the other green energy jobs that went "poof" once the stimulus money and energy department money expired? Reagan is considered a successful 2 term president, as well as Clinton compared to the unsuccesful presidencies of Bush junior, Jimmy Carter, and Barack Obama.

Other little facts. The prime rate of interest topped 20% during Reagan's first term. Oh, that's right, that was Carter's fault. You complain when people blame Bush for Obama's economic woes, but you then turnaround and blame Carter for Reagan's economic woes. What is that called? Hmmmm.

Volcker raised interest rates to clamp down on inflation, something that Carter had failed to do during his presidency. And when inflation was tamed, interest rates declined and with lower taxes the economy took off. The lower, permanent tax rates were thanks to Regan, not Carter. Leftists never get it. If you let people keep more of what they earn, they'll invest and business will grow. If you set a business climate that is pro-growth and optimistic, then businesses will take the necessary steps to grow and meet future demand, including hiring more people. Lefties simply can't let go of the mantra that businesses are bad and greedy and therefore they must be controlled by the government in all ways. And when businesses respond to lefty policies (i.e., Obamacare) that raise costs by sitting on the sidelines with their cash, the Left vilifies businesses as evil. Yeah, that's the definition of insanity.

Your point is that Reagan inherited problems from Carter? When Obama inherits problems it's too bad?

As you can see, my simple point is when facts are taken out of context like you do regularly and I did in my example, the facts can be used to support diametrically opposed positions. The budget talk is a red herring. The debt ceiling deal struck by the Democrats and Republicans set a spending limit.

Not one person on either side of the debate has an answer to the revenue and expenditure problem. When you only take in 2.4 Trillion and spend 3.6 Trillion each year, I believe you have created an insurmountable problem that will haunt this country for a very long time.

@Paulie...I was just stating the facts, not your fabrications. I don't think ANYONE ever looked in the past like you people do. When Regan got in, he did not care about the past, he looked to the future. You people have to try and bring up the past because MOST of you people have VERY short memories. The FACTS are , when Obama got into office he had majority in BOTH houses and could not get crap done, only BAD policies. I am NOT going to name them ALL off, it would take forever. You are a left wing nutcase and you cannot be trusted. Just look at the numbers, this will tell you how bad thing are and the lies and the deceipt coming out of the white house. http://rt.com/usa/news/labor-force-participation-rate-600/

@B Allen
You're dealing with folks and an idealogy that excel at "muddying the waters". Simply marginalize........

Former LBJ campaign worker, former RFK supporter, former Clinton supporter.

I said "good on you"...I'm not sure what you mean. You're not familiar with the phrase, I guess? It's pretty common, as far as I know. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/good_on_you

Sounds like frank jag and paul are all under the same rainbow. The treasury released the statistic when the deficit went over 14 trillion how much debt incurred during Obamas 3.5 years. Do the math, since you type about education. The deficit incurred is more than that of all the other presidents combined. During Obamas presidency he has lost over 4 million jobs and only 3 million have been created. That is a net loss of jobs, and he is the only modern president to have such a record. Keep clicking your ruby heels in the mirror and repeat 3 times outloud all the lies about his deficit spending and maybe you can be one of the 39 percent that feel the country is going in the right direction.

Escariot, please stop. It simply smells and you know it. The day Obama walked iinto the White House the economy was losing 750,000 jobs a month and the deficit was 1.2 trillion per year on revenues of only 2.4 trillion. Those are facts and unless you expected divine intervention to fix it the runaway train does not stop on a dime. So please just stop, I'm tired of it. Have a good day.

Frank, jag and paul are sitting under rainbow playing with butterflies and riding unicorns. Their Messiah is going to get a serious electoral smack down in November. Why? Because he failed to turn around the economy as he said he would. And millions upon millions of Americans have suffered as a result of Obama's incompetence.

lol, I swear it's real! Forbes says it, too! http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2012/05/03/good-on-you-hulu-more-frictionless-sharing-companies-should-follow-this-lead/

Though we can just pretend I said "good for you" if that helps you out.

@JH - good thing jag is condescending... otherwise you wouldn't know how inferior you are to his superior intellect.

I sure don't. I haven't any clue why you brought it up, and then continued to bring it up!

You spin facts which every one can see. I am glad you spew your venom. You hate Obama for whatever reasons that may be. He walked into a nightmare scenario and all you want to do is spin and you wish it was McCain/Palin instead. You are pathetic.

I just wish that Obama would come clean with the public regarding several lingering clouds... the vets deserve the truth in a straight forward, easy to understand communication. Not the typical political grey zone crap that is filled with the illusion of un verified opposing numbers, presidents, percentages....
I know of several vets that still don't believe that Obama is even eligible to be our President because he refuses to clearly communicate and provide full disclosure of his past. I had "hope" for the guy at first, but regardless of the numbers, I don't believe he has been forthcoming and honest about his past...leaving me to believe that the grey clouds hold secrets....I don't trust him...or the republican offering either for that matter.

I also believe that Obama was strategically placed into this "nightmare scenario" knowing fully what he was getting into. I believe that the back of our once great country has been to some degree intentionally broken.....government run programs breed public apathy.. this plays well to the corporate rulers..

I see Paul is still not admitting that Obama has a role in creating the crisis by blocking reform of freddie and fannie. Nice. How can we even have a discussion if one side won't even admit a fundamental truth.

Bill, the crisis was well in place and roaring the day he walked into the office. Trying to blame Obama for everything and for not fixing everything is silly, but conservatives try very hard. Hindsight, shoulda, woulda, coulda, didn't, applies to everyone in Congress who create laws and oversight. It is like saying Bush should have prevented 9/11. I don't agree with that statement, but it is a great talking point.

Obama is far from perfect as almost every democrat will agree. I dont like caving in, Afganistan, immigration policies, and more. However when we (democrats) do the balance sheet and weigh assets and liabilities, we could have chosen McCain/Palin or Romney/???, it is an easy choice for us. Same for you. Happy now?

@Escariot

Slam.....bam and boom.....well said and case closed. That pretty much sums up how I and everybody I know feels about it. No real need to continue...

Jeff, you felt that way before Obama was elected (for whatever reason), so nothing new. Escariot (spell correct keeps wanting Escargot for some reason) immediately stoops to name calling as his defense. People see that, when stooping to name calling the argument fades, just simply pathetic. He is a die hard Ron Paul supporter that is lost in his own imagination, you may join him on his fairy tale ride. Escariot fails to discuss facts and keeps looking for the grand Obama conspiracy. I simply wish he would put his real name out there for all to see, but he is afraid, I presume you use your real name, I have always?

Escariot:

Very well said..

Great way of dodging his whole post there paul... everything you said about Escariot pretty much applies to your post :)

Jeff,

1. My opinion as to what your feelings were. Did I deduce incorrectly, if so I stand corrected, if not please say so.
2. Comment about your using a real name, like me, was actually a compliment, sorry if that was not clear. I tire of those who espouse views, call people names and then hide behind screen names in order to hide theirbidentity, for whatever reason that may be.

Speaking of naive...

Neither Giblets nor chicken hawks apply here, move along boy.

Prove that I'm not already in the military!

Which question is that? I certainly didnt ask any nor did you ask any of me.

The rest of your post is blind assumptions, but if you're in the military I expect no less.

Provide proof of the accusations you make towards me and when you're done failing at that try telling me the last time anyone died for ME.

That should wrap this exchange up!

Obama is half black...half white...who really gives a crap...

Hats off to you, sir.

AZ, I have an accurate rule of thumb, unlike yours. Those who haven't served but think those that have had a gravy job on the gravy train. I generally find they are chicken hawks. Ticks looking for a free ride. Based on your comments, you appear to be latched on for the ride.

1ke, I don't blame President Obama as much as I blame this "do nothing" Congress. Congress has had the opportunity to look for alternative fuels since the mid 70's. They are so beholden to the oil companies for political contributions, this is why the USA still uses oil as its main fuel. We have 100 years stockpile of nat gas yet Congress refuses to pass laws requiring a changeover to this fuel. Listen to Boone Pickens. Congress could have required all OTR truckers to transition to nat gas. Most major trucking manufacturers are now able to produce nat gas engines. Boone Pickens is trying to build stations to supply nat gas. I think Pilot Truck Stops in California is the 1st to support nat gas stations. I think all voters should look at Congress as the problem.

Apparently you have been through the system that has blinded you Benjamin Welch Owens, who left his nearby West River farm to join Confederate forces during the Civil War. Owens was among the tens of thousands of men from Maryland who made their way south. Not Slavery at all He is one of our forgotten soldiers same as revolutionary war There were many like him of his free will, you just stated that you are one of the indoctrination of the process failure to seek the truth SURPRISE http://dcmemorials.com/index_indiv0003531.htm in your own back yard!

Good and factual information. My distant Grandpappy received a "land grant" (50 acres I believe?) for service in the Revolution. In addition, after the Civil War..... on a "state" level Confederate veterans and their widows were also allowed to apply for a pension. Many of my "rebel" ancestors took advantage of this....... it was as you state a precursor to Social Security.

Ms. Blalock,

Thank you for the important history. My great-grandfather was among those who received a Civil War Pension.

For those of you who are interested, a specific building, The Pension Building was erected to handle the large number of claims made by Civil War veterans.

The Pension Building is located on F Street between 4th and 5th Streets, Northwest, and is open for visitation as the National Building Museum. For those who wish to know more about its history, please visit: http://www.nps.gov/nr/travel/wash/dc40.htm

yes it was created with good intentions but Capital hill kept putting there hands on it and used it and look now where we are at?